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Half banana
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Introduction
by robrog8999 inhello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.
in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.
the name is robert.
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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion
by AndersonsInfo ini just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
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Half banana
So very sad for this family and if they are to wake up from their religious delusion in the future, how much more tragic it will be to realize that the death of their loved one was avoidable.
The JW org should be held to account for all of the deaths encouraged by pushing the no-blood dogma with its reckless disregard for precious human lives.
The world must learn how dangerous this cult is.
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Life after Armageddon in the new world A Paradise ? You be the Judge.
by smiddy inmost , if not all of jw`s expect it to be paradise ,immediately.. how wrong can they be.. 8 billion + corpses lying around , oh thats right jehovah the magician will fix that with a wave of his wing.. their will not be education above 4th grade as higher education is frowned upon.. women will be restricted to sewing weaving and looking after their husbands needs , and looking after all the children being born to her husband and being in subjection to him.. how many women are in high profile positions in the world today ,including leaders of countries ,and other positions of power and influence ,even in male dominated fields of bygone years .. that will all be gone in the new system ,where women will be put in their place.. children will be forbidden from compettitive sports as thats not permitted anymore , no more tv games ,no more video games , no more just about anything that normal teenagers engage in today.. and no more tv except jw.org tv worldwide with no other channells.
with higher education off the table society is going to slowly sink back to the dark ages and even the stone age.. think about it .
no research in anything , not medical , scientific ,the arts music ,literature ,paintings space ,astronomy etc.etc.,simply because its not necessary now , why ?
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Half banana
Smiddy, as you point out when it comes down to the details it would be a Taliban hell...
Fact is, it's just a dream, the Watchtower "paradise" is just a lure for the gullible to commit their lives to the cult leaders.
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A JW Calling Down Evil Upon Others!
by Divergent in.
stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/0185f744fb5e464488b296f2b74e4ccd.html
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Half banana
The JW religion is a paranoid perversion of truth.............
Wakey wakey Jehovah's Witnesses!
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Introduction
by robrog8999 inhello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.
in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.
the name is robert.
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Half banana
Robrog, thanks for coming here and well done in your desire for searching for what is right . You are twenty six, so you have had time to realize that there is actually more to life than religion.
May I direct you to the possibility that religion is a political scheme of control based on the susceptibility of human nature towards a mystical resolution of all earthly problems.
Have you considered that your introduction reveals that you are prepared to accept as truth only the things you will agree with such as the baseless notion that the Bible is inerrant and inspired by God?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to HoratioBut I wish you well all the same.
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Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.
by Balaamsass2 in"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.
sounded good.. what is the reality?
how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.
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Half banana
LongHairGal said,
"Many Witnesses fall into the category of those who are just about making ends meet. They are hampered by the fact that they do not have a college degree, which is necessary in today's world".
And it seems this is almost the exemplary form of JW culture; "followers" being forced by their poverty to remain dependent throughout their lives on the very doubtful wisdom and authority of the GB.
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Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.
by Balaamsass2 in"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.
sounded good.. what is the reality?
how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.
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Half banana
The org prefers compliant, uneducated followers since they are easier to hoodwink but not to be overlooked is the mental poverty of being a JW, wasting your life as a guilt ridden, good for nothing slave of the WTBTS.
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Been witnessing today - first time in over 2 years!!
by The Searcher inand it felt wonderful!!.
i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.
the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.
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Half banana
Well done Searcher! your witnessing seemed to get the right response which is to break through the JW force field, you got them to think and even change perspective...( perhaps you saw it as witnessing for Jesus and not as unwitnessing?)
A JW is snug and smug in a kind of "locked-in" syndrome. For the individual it is very destabilizing and painful to contemplate opposing the cult teachings, it invites social rejection from community and family since culture conformity is the most powerful drive of human behaviour.
With the decline of d2d preaching, cart witnessing alongside TV evangelism, is the new push and this makes the carts a prime target for us. There used to be a lot in London, but in recent months they have not been present in my neck of the woods to allow me to unwitness there.
Have the GB realized what sitting ducks the cart people are, vulnerable to better informed ex-JWs?
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Biblical Scholar Claims The Story Of Jesus Christ Was A HOAX Designed To Control The People
by anointed1 inhere is something i found interesting:.
biblical scholar claims the story of jesus christ was a hoax designed to control the people.
http://simplecapacity.com/2016/10/biblical-scholar-claims-story-jesus-christ-hoax-designed-control-people/.
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Half banana
Posting attempts at interpretations of scholarly works on this site is fraught with difficulties because here is not the medium for precise thinking, logical examination and supply of textual evidence. We here can casually talk of “a hoax” as we think in our everyday language: yes religion or Jesus is a hoax...and that is the way it is.
But when it comes to trying to verify these thing at a deeper level, unless we have studied the subjects of first century Roman history at least at a masters degree level we are usually floundering (me especially). What is required is a profound knowledge of the whole subject including textual studies and Iron Age and Classical period literature, the power politics of the period, contemporary philosophy and religious beliefs and the very important history of both of them, ethnography and mythology and the social function of myth and even the subject of how we read and interpret the past---in order to be able to give a serious response.
Most of us don’t have the time and having been JWs have missed this opportunity in life to study at that depth. But fear not! Robert M Price, as Mephis directs us, has most of these requirements under his belt so to speak. What Price is debunking is the trope of Atwill describing all the known stories of the NT as a furtive joke, a nod to those in the know and a put-down of resurgent Jewish opposition to Rome for the sake of political compliance.
I usually find academics tied to religious institutions suspect in their allegiances and find Price reverent of the Bible text but not of the traditions of Christianity. However he does not think there is sufficient evidence to say that Jesus was a real person and finds a mythicist explanation for his presence in the gospels.
Atwill said that Jesus is, “the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources”. I agree with him and probably so would Robert M Price.
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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...
by freddo inwell how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
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Half banana
JW:
Come to our special meeting and be converted to a pathetic cult full of religious zombies who have given up thinking for themselves. But if you don't convert to our religion, then Big J will kill you and feed your corpse to the dickie birds at Armageddon.
Interested person:
What a lovely message, I would love to come!